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Something to Consider

A lot of conservative and right wing people are advocating that the government is right to accrete to itself more and more surveillance and domestic intelligence gathering powers, in spite of past abuses and the wiretap act. The PATRIOT Act and its sequels are just the tip of the iceberg, IMO.

I have to ask anyone advocating surveillance, spying, monitoring, tracking, pervasive IDs, biometrics, and all of the rest of the "nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide" type of crap to do this simple exercise:
  1. Imagine that your worst nightmare has come to pass, and the government is entirely made up of the party and politicians you hate and/or fear the most - for conservatives, think of Congress and the White House filled with Hillary and Bill Clinton clones.

  2. Imagine that this government of people you loathe has been given *all* the tools you now advocate for monitoring, identification, surveillance, and spying on undesirables.

  3. Imagine that this government that you loathe now considers you to be an undesirable, a terror suspect, or otherwise anti-American.
Are you still so sure that you want to give the "government" (current and future) the authority to use these tools?

You see, you aren't just handing the good ol' boys of the Bush administration these powers, you are handing the government, in perpetuity, these powers - regardless of who is running it. If, and when, you lose your predominance, the people who you hate, and that hate you, will have the tools to make your (and your decendents) lives miserable - and you gave them to them with a cheer and a "damn straight".

Doesn't that make you feel brilliant?

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madpiratebippy
Apr. 20th, 2006 06:50 pm (UTC)
thank you! This is a point I keep making- that even if you like and want to give more toys to the people in power NOW, they don't stay in power forever and the people you hate get it eventually (Hayak makes this point very elegantly in "The Road To Serfdom", if you're interested.

I surfed here from Noel's journal, FYI
heethen_crone
Apr. 20th, 2006 06:51 pm (UTC)
Hah! I used that argument on my Mom the other day. Let's just say that she's reconsidering her thoughts on wire taps and the like. Not that she was a real supporter to start out with, much. And the neo-con version seems to be that the "big" government supporters are out to steal everyone's liberties and not them.
silverstorm2013
Apr. 20th, 2006 07:03 pm (UTC)
Nice try, but there not going to get it until their door gets kicked down for not “towing the party line”

First they came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Communist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Jew.

Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up,Because I was a Protestant.

Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me.

Martin Niemöller
fizzyland
Apr. 20th, 2006 08:34 pm (UTC)
I loved your 'Jesus' poem and as a leftie heretic pagan, would like to friend you.
ravan
Apr. 20th, 2006 08:43 pm (UTC)
Fine by me... ;-)
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