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Dear PantheaCon Shithead Childherders

Friday night, about 30 of us were all crowded into the Asatru Hospitality Suite. No windows were open, of course - it was a bit chilly outside. You people sat in there, oblivious, while your child ran around and coughed... and coughed... and was cranky... and coughed more. By the time I realized that it was just one child doing the coughing, not covering her mouth, it was too late.

I now know that cough very well. It hit me last night. I'm missing work because you weren't considerate enough of your kid and your fellow heathens to put the kid to bed. Lots of people, small hotel room (not a big suite), and a kid who hasn't been taught to cover her damned mouth when she coughs.

I don't blame the kid. She couldn't not cough. This shit is that kind of nasty. I blame you, for siting around for well over an hour neglecting to make her comfortable in bed and infecting the rest of us. You guys finally started talking about taking her back to the room to check her temperature when I left. Not doing it, mind you, just talking about it and whining about how having a kid is hard.

You people are rude, and you care more for your own social satisfaction and ego (oooh, looky at me and my kid) than for the health of your kid and your fellow heathens and pagans.

Fuck you. If I could carve this on a nithstang and not risk her getting caught in the fallout of my curse, I would.

P.S. If the sick, coughing person had been adult, they would have been offered cough drops and help back to their room, because they were miserable. But people won't interfere with parenting. So it's your fault, not the kids. That's what guardianship of your child means.

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polywogger
Feb. 20th, 2008 03:43 am (UTC)
Wow, Raven, you're still subjecting yourself to that?

I quit after a certain self-important little twit who was "in" with the organizing committee told us all on the BA Pagan mailing list that "scent is an important part of her spiritual practice" and that if we were sensitive to it, we needed to stay away. So I have. I still have and wear some of the pieces I bought from you that year, though.

And I don't feel even a little bad that the aforementioned twit is now subject to migraines when she runs into scents she's allergic to, including tobacco smoke, and whines loudly about it (while continuing to insist that her "essential oils" couldn't be causing anyone else any problems).

Still bitter, after all these years. You're a braver woman than I am. I'm so sorry you're sick as a result of stupid people's thoughtlessness.
ex_ciannait
Feb. 20th, 2008 04:16 am (UTC)
Exu loudly informed me I couldn't afford Pcon this year, and he meant it in more than one way.
alyxreese
Feb. 20th, 2008 07:02 am (UTC)
I would so forward that to them, make sure they read it.

But then I am the bitchy one who has no problem telling someone to put their kid to bed....LOL..

ravan
Feb. 20th, 2008 05:34 pm (UTC)
If I knew the people's e-mail address, I would. I'm still coughing and miserable.
heethen_crone
Feb. 20th, 2008 05:47 pm (UTC)
You don't take sick kids out in public. Mine were cranky, snarky, etc when they were sick. I didn't take them out. Screw being polite. Sick and passing germs is sick and passing germs, wheather child or adult. I'd have said something. But I'm old and don't care what people think of me.
jordan_avon
Feb. 20th, 2008 10:16 pm (UTC)
I can only agree...
...and I'm certain, had I been there, I would not have been polite...at all.

And I would not have cared a flying frack in a bi-plane who minded.

Nosireebob.

jordan_avon
Feb. 20th, 2008 10:17 pm (UTC)
Mainly...
...because I have the same crud myself, just now.
ravan
Feb. 21st, 2008 12:31 am (UTC)
Re: Mainly...
*cough* *cough* *whimper* *wheeze* *cough*
zoe_me
Feb. 21st, 2008 03:33 am (UTC)
Well, when you go after her parents, here is why it isn't going to go far:

My daughter and I were with Sonja from about 1pm-8pm Friday. My daughter was with her roughly 10am to 3:30pm when we went up to the Pagan Alliance suite. My husband was with Sonja much of that time. (You saw us at the PA suite around 4:30pm.)

My daughter, my husband, and I had HOURS more contact with Sonja than you. No coughs, no fevers, no ick (I have bad allergies, but it doesn't look a thing like Sonja's ick).

I will check will the other mom of a kid who spent time with Sonja, but so far no complaints in her LJ of her kid having a cough.
ravan
Feb. 21st, 2008 03:55 am (UTC)
It wasn't in the Pagan Alliance suite, IIRC, it was the Asatru suite.

There were lots of parents with kids at P-Con this year. Most of them took good care of their kids.

Also, some people don't have the constant exposure to stuff to boost their immune systems though sheer inundation.

Edited at 2008-02-21 04:01 am (UTC)
zoe_me
Feb. 21st, 2008 04:01 am (UTC)
You are missing the logic: Sonja had a wee cough on Friday, and her father explained it to me as the tail of something. Her father is the host of the Asatru suite, and we were in there for the drawing at like 5:45pm Saturday night(getting ready for the drawing) until 6:40pm when we went to help our fellow Greeks out down the hall. Sonja (the blond girl) was helping her mom draw tickets for the raffle and was the only kid in the room when my daughter left her.

so to add to the logic, we were with the Asatru kid in question near to your comparatively low exposure period, and as thick as theives as my daughter is with their kid...... hmm I am doubtful.
ravan
Feb. 21st, 2008 04:03 am (UTC)
The kid doing the drawing wasn't the one doing the coughing. She wasn't coughing much at all (and was cute as hell). There was another kid closer to the door.

Oh, and your logic fails anyway. Just because parents, exposed to every bug that their kid brings home from school and play, are immune doesn't mean everyone else is.

Edited at 2008-02-21 04:07 am (UTC)
datapard
Feb. 21st, 2008 04:35 am (UTC)
1. Ravan was not running a fever and coughing her lungs out on Thursday.
2. Ravan was not running a fever and coughing her lungs out on Friday
3. Ravan was not running a fever and coughing her lungs out on Saturday
4. Ravan was not running a fever and coughing her lungs out on Sunday
6. She was starting to show symptoms on Monday.
7. She had to come home sick on Tuesday.
8. She stayed home sick today.

This sort of thing has a incubation period of 36 to 48 hours as a general rule, NOT 120. "Logic" would therefore indicate that she got it at PCon. Now whether or not she got it from exposure to the little darling at the Asatru suite "may" be open to debate, but it would certainly seem to be the most likely location.

All that not withstanding, what the bloody HELL was that child doing out of bed when she was sick. What kind of self-centered, self-indulgent egocentric "parent" does that to a child? Do they just not care or what?
weofodthignen
Feb. 21st, 2008 01:44 pm (UTC)
Aww, poor Ravan :-(

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